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Piikki
05-25-2005, 04:48 AM
We played for a short while and few questions after that.

It says that intimidation takes 2 actions, are these tandem actions (talking) or normal actions ?

Position ties go to defender ? And defender is decided by using common sense ?

Somewhere were said that positioning advances speed. What difficulty advance does it give ?

If i use Add2 weapon and have skill exp 4 (competent). I don't have any FoRKs or advantages. I can only get mark hits ?

This is just to make things really clear to stupid old me... So spell casting is tandem action. I can fight normally and after X actions cast big kaboom to finish fight ?

Verrain
05-25-2005, 07:58 AM
Well I know the answers to a few of these.

If I use Add2 weapon and have skill exp 4 (competent). I don't have any FoRKs or advantages. I can only get mark hits ?

Yep. That's the way the math works out. Fine incentive to include skills to FORK really.


This is just to make things really clear to stupid old me... So spell casting is tandem action. I can fight normally and after X actions cast big kaboom to finish fight ?

Definitely not. Elvish songs and prayers using Faith are tandem actions and can be used while performing other fight actions. Incanting a spell is a martial action all on its own.

Thor Olavsrud
05-25-2005, 10:05 AM
We played for a short while and few questions after that.

It says that intimidation takes 2 actions, are these tandem actions (talking) or normal actions ?

As Verrain noted, Intimidation is two full actions. You're not just talking, you're glaring and moving threateningly. Maybe even performing a flashy sword maneuver.

Position ties go to defender ? And defender is decided by using common sense ?

In other words, in the event of a tie, you Maintain your Position. Or, if both of you were Closing, you Close one Position. Or, if both of you were Withdrawing, you Withdraw one Position (unless you're both quitting the fight, and then there's no need to roll).

Somewhere were said that positioning advances speed. What difficulty advance does it give ?

Positioning is a versus Speed test. Your opponent's successes are the Obstacle. Bonus dice from weapon length and better Reflexes COUNT when determining the level of the test.

For instance, if you have a Speed B4 and your opponent gets 4 successes on his test, but you have the longest weapon advantage and Reflexes advantage (bumping you up to rolling B6), you are rolling 6 dice versus an Obstacle of 4. You get a Routine test.

If i use Add2 weapon and have skill exp 4 (competent). I don't have any FoRKs or advantages. I can only get mark hits ?

Unless you spend Artha, yes.

This is just to make things really clear to stupid old me... So spell casting is tandem action. I can fight normally and after X actions cast big kaboom to finish fight ?

No. Singing Elven Songs or Praying using Faith is a Tandem Action. Casting spells using Sorcery is NOT! It's too involved.

luke
05-25-2005, 11:09 AM
If i use Add2 weapon and have skill exp 4 (competent). I don't have any FoRKs or advantages. I can only get mark hits ?

or you take a Stance and use your 2 bonus dice...


it's pretty easy to get bonus dice to ensure that you can deliver the killing blow.

-L

Piikki
05-25-2005, 11:09 AM
Forgot to specify that positioning tie question. When making intial positioning in begining of combat, what happens in case of tie ?

So players have to "keep log" of positioning obstacles.

If exp 4 character can only make mark hit, then can he/she really be count as competent ? What else than brawling(and such) can you FoRK in combat skills ?

luke
05-25-2005, 11:19 AM
Forgot to specify that positioning tie question. When making intial positioning in begining of combat, what happens in case of tie ?

So players have to "keep log" of positioning obstacles.

If exp 4 character can only make mark hit, then can he/she really be count as competent ? What else than brawling(and such) can you FoRK in combat skills ?

Initial positiong: It's a tie, so you maintain your current distance. For 99% of initial positioning, "current distance" is Outside of Striking distance.

Keep log? No. You get to note ONE TEST from each fight. Just note the first test that comes up a Challenging or Difficult.

Competent: Yes. If you really want to argue about this, start another thread. We'll talk about it.

FoRKs: Brawling, Boxing, and additional Appropriate Weapons. Polearm and Axe, Lance and Spear, Mace and Cudgel, etc.

-L

Thor Olavsrud
05-25-2005, 11:23 AM
Forgot to specify that positioning tie question. When making intial positioning in begining of combat, what happens in case of tie ?

So players have to "keep log" of positioning obstacles.

If exp 4 character can only make mark hit, then can he/she really be count as competent ? What else than brawling(and such) can you FoRK in combat skills ?

If you tie in the initial positioning test, you begin Outside Striking Distance.

A Mark result is actually pretty damn good. It takes an expert, someone with lots of luck (Artha), or someone who has thrown all caution to the winds (Aggressive Stance) to come up with a Superb result.

Contrary to popular misconception, it is actually extraordinarily difficult to kill someone in a single blow from a knife, or other weapon, if they are aware of you. Most stab victims have defensive wounds on their hands, as they sacrifice their hands to protect their 'core.' Even then, people have to know what they're doing to penetrate the rib cage. People who were struck in the belly before modern surgery would often linger in agony for days before they died of sepsis. The head can be very difficult to strike, is well-protected by bone, and even blows that penetrate to the brain do not necessarily kill immediately. Some people even recover from such blows.

From what I understand, stabbing death victims often received 20 or more blows from a knife before dying. It is not that uncommon for people who have received this many blows to survive either.

In fact, when I was in high school (way too many years ago to share), there was one kid who got obsessed with this girl. He snapped one night and broke into her house only to be confronted by the girl's father. The kid had a knife, and slashed the father 47 times. The father survived without incident, although he required a fair bit of plastic surgery (and years of psychological counseling, I'm sure).

Piikki
05-26-2005, 01:15 AM
Don't want to argue that point, just want to know how you are thinking, so that i can get in the same level and understand better what diffrent skill levels mean.

Points taken, Thor made a valid point about multiple stab wounds and superior hits, didn't think it that way.

About "keeping log" i meant that they write down (to another paper) speed tests taking during battle and afterwards choose what marker they take on advancement, is this right ?

luke
05-26-2005, 01:20 AM
About "keeping log" i meant that they write down (to another paper) speed tests taking during battle and afterwards choose what marker they take on advancement, is this right ?

Well... technically, the player is supposed to take the most difficult test and note it for advancement. They're not supposed to choose. But if a player just needs one more test to advance -- a Difficult, for example --gets one during the fight, I'll let him take that test instead of a later Challenging test that would have arrived.

Piikki
05-26-2005, 01:23 AM
Thanks again. I'll be back soon with more questions. Don't you just love me ?