Starting With All Grey Stats?

[stack0v3rflow]

About two years ago I played in a friend's home brew setting and system. I liked the setting a lot, but the system quite frankly didn't do it for me. Now, Burning Wheel has a much better system, but part of the setting is that the starting characters are very powerful (one character was killing goblins by flinging pubbles at them).

I was wondering if anyone had run a game with the starting characters having grey in all their stats. If so, how did it go?

Thanks,
Aaron

[khelek]

I think the main problem will be nothing that does nto do grey damage wouldever even put you in danger as you would have a Grey Mortal Wound... which is quite quite sick.

[Yagathai]

Oh yeah? You think so?

Tell you what, Khelek. Let's take this to the arena: Take a 1LP handicap and I'll spot you a Grey MW. We'll see how "out of danger" you really are. :twisted:

[skandall]

I recently ran a game that was intended to use the Agone setting with the Burning Wheel rules. In that setting, players are all highly trained. They are among the best of their chosen profession. One character was a Minotaur who wound up with a couple Grey Stats and Attributes. To make a long story short, the Minotaur was cleaving Giant Spiders in half with his bare hands leaving the other players to mostly just stand around. Since the minotaur had a G12 Mortal Wound, the Spiders couldn't even scratch him.

Long Story short, ALL Grey stats would only be okay if most of your opponents were mostly grey with a white stat here and there just to make things hard. Otherwise, I expect it could get more than a little boring.

If the characters are meant to be highly skilled, then why not give them a couple grey Skills (maybe cap them at an exponent of 4 to 6). That way they're still human, just very well trained. Probably what I should have done.

[Yagathai]

Did he have a Grey weapon, too?

Anyway, I find it hard to believe that three or four Giant Spiders, properly constructed, couldn't take him down in short order. A couple of supies, a Steel check or two and it's all over but the chittering.

[khelek]

I am sure you can create Grey Killers, after all if it has stats you can kill it or something, but i think alot of the fun would vanish if your completely heroic.

I just think that all grey would be less fun than a little grey. just my point of view.

I am not saying you can't do it or that there would be no challenges.

[skandall]

Did he have a Grey weapon, too?

Anyway, I find it hard to believe that three or four Giant Spiders, properly constructed, couldn't take him down in short order. A couple of supies, a Steel check or two and it's all over but the chittering.

The minotaur is a demon from hell who had escaped to the surface world. No spider, regardless of size, is going to scare a creature that was born in the depths of hell, killing it's mother in the process, if anything the spiders were affraid of him! The minotaur had a grey Power stat and the spiders had B12 Mortal wounds. Even if a spider had a MW of G12, the minotaur could just charge it with his horns which did something like G12 for a Mark. As I said, I should have made the characters differently, especially the minotaur because he was flat out broken.

[khelek]

The minotaur is a demon from hell...killing it's mother in the process...

Were you all using the Agone Setting?

[Yagathai]

Skandall, you do realize that having a Grey power doesn't mean that you do Grey damage, right? You need a Grey weapon to do Grey damage, regardless of the power behind it. Even a character with Black strength does Grey damage with a Grey weapon, and even a character with Grey strength does Black damage with a Black weapon.

[DaGreatJL]

If I were a spider, and I were facing someone with a Grey MW, I would lock the shit out of them.

[skandall]

The minotaur is a demon from hell...killing it's mother in the process...

Were you all using the Agone Setting?

Yes, the game was set in the Twilight Realms. I converted some Agone characters over to Burning Wheel as best I could figure. All of the Flame stuff really made it difficult though. In the end I'd say that my conversion was no good.

The players wound up passing through a picture world. It was an amazing tropical island, clear skies, warm sand, and that good stuff. Then you go inside the ancient ruins and find out that there are no people here because of the giant spiders. Anyway, I think the game was still fun (except for that Satyr, well role-played though he was).

[stack0v3rflow]

Thank you all for your thoughts. It doesn't seem as game breaking as I first thought it would be.