Spider vs. Troll: Fight!

[Yagathai]

I know that the polls normally go in the discussion threads, but I screwed up. The poll can go here. The discussion, however, still goes there.

[Verrain]

Eclavdra and her sisters were sent to comb through the deep caves. Partnership with the Orcs was one thing but these vile Trolls would not be tolerated in the Spider caves! Eclavdra sensed carefully about her. Any one of these stones strewn about could hide one of the hideous beasts.

Perception roll is 6D 4, 4, 1, 5, 2, 3 = 3 successes

[Yagathai]

OK, let's do this bad thing.

It's dark in the caves. Dark makes Tiny hungry. It's always dark in the caves, but then again, Tiny is always hungry. Still he sits, motionless under a steadily dripping stalactice, looking for all the world like a giant moss-covered boulder smoothed into a gnarled shape by the relelentless forces of water and gravity.

Camouflage roll:

Roll 1: 5, 4, 1, 5 = 3 successes.

[Verrain]

Ties go to the defender so no surprise for Tiny.


At the last moment, Eclavdra senses more than sees something wrong with the rocks and skitters backward screeching as the 'tiny' troll bursts forth from his hiding place.


Standard positioning test then. Positioning with net.

8D = 4, 6, 3, 6, 1, 6, 3, 3 = 4 successes

[Yagathai]

Mr. Toeless-Huggins is positioning with his shield as a throwing weapon (which negates longest weapon bonuses for you, but I think that 8D is the right amount, yes?). No advantages, but straight-up Speed gives him 4D.

Roll 1: 5, 3, 3, 5 = 2 successes

Lunch was so close! Argh! Tiny hefts his shield and roars something unspeakable (but luckily not unroarable!) as he stretches to his full seven feet. Shield in hand, he lumbers forward.

You win! What's it going to be?

[Verrain]

Optimal for throwing weapons which makes it out of range for anything else.

My exchange is below with the second two volleys in white.

V1 Maintain Acquire Target, Aim



V2 Maintain Aim, Throw Net

V3 Maintain Acquire Target, Throw Lariat

[Yagathai]

Funny, we have the exact same first exchange. ;) Mine, too are below.

V1 Maintain, Acquire Target, Aim


Tiny stops as he sees lunch stop. He sniffs the air to determine the direction of the prevailing currents and raises his shield up and behind him, in preparation for a mighty overhead toss. Spiders are fast food. Easier to crush it with a shield than to run after it.


V2 Close, Avoid
V3 Close, Tackle

[Verrain]

So Volley Two Close versus Maintain Then Tiny avoids while Eclavdra Aims and Eclavdra throws her Net.

So first things first. Positioning 8D (Assuming you are using your shield still) = 5, 3, 3, 5, 3, 5, 3, 1 = 3 Successes

Either way I get to throw the net 6D for Agility +2d for Aiming against a base Ob2 +1ob for the troll closing and +1 ob for the spider maintaining Ob4

3, 6, 3, 6, 4, 5, 1, 5 = 5 successes!

DoF is 4 for a 2D Lock. Ob4 power test needed to break free.

[Yagathai]

Wait, doesn't Avoid add a +1 Ob? Not that it matters excessively with that roll. I just want to make sure I have the numbers right.

[Yagathai]

Positioning, Close vs. Maintain

Roll 1: 6, 1, 1, 3 = 1 success

Avoid isn't rolled.

Tiny changes his mind and abandons his throw just before he releases. This shield was hard to get, and lunch might steal it and run away! Instead, he lumbers forward into a hobnailed run, only to catch lunch's sticky net right in the face. Stupid net!

[Verrain]

Hmm. Depends on how you read it I suppose. It says it gives a +1Ob against thrown weapons in the volley but I assumed the Avoid and the Throw Weapon had to be opposing actions like Avoid vs a Strike. Perhaps not.

[Yagathai]

I'm fairly certain it's a +1 to the entire volley.

[Yagathai]

Anyway, positioning for volley 3 is a Power Close vs. your Maintain. 8 Pow -2 from the net +2 from the Tackle= 8D.

Hmm. I was going to choose to use the free Strike on a charge that Horns give me, but it occurs to me that I didn't script Tackle/Strike, so I guess I'll default to the extra die, giving me 9D total on positioning:

6, 4, 6, 5, 4, 2, 4, 5, 2 = 7 successes.

[Verrain]

I could see it either way. Anyway as you said it does not effect the outcome so we shall move on.

So you have a charge scripted. So that is your Power + 1D +1D for a close in the last volley but at +2Ob for crossing more than one fighting distance, yes?

And I get my full nine positioning dice as natural defenses since you can't charge and claim to be positioning with a throwing weapon.

So 9D = 6, 1, 3, 3, 2, 5, 6, 3, 2 = 3 successes

[Yagathai]

I forgot about the +2Ob, but you're absolutely right. Which means that I got 7 successes vs. a 5 Ob. That's 2 success over, which puts you down and me on top and on the Inside.

Half-blinded by the net anyway, Tiny lowers his head and charges blindly, leading with his gnarled, twisted, rock-like horns. Lunch tries to skitter away, but too little, too late! THWUMP! Troll and spider go down in a horrible mass of legs and arms and horns and fangs and chelicera.

[Yagathai]

Next Volley I'm going to be positioning with a Short weapon. Do either of us get the longest weapon bonus?

[Verrain]

I am positioning with a shortest weapon so you actually get the bonus. Am going to bed. Pick this up in the morning with my second exchange.

[Verrain]

So my next exchange,

V1, Withdraw, Get Up (1), Get Up (2)

V2

Withdraw, Extrude Lariat, Acquire Target


V3


Maintain, Throw Lariat, Throw Opponent

[Yagathai]

V1: Close, Tackle, Lock CHANGED TO Stand & Drool

V2: Close, Lock CHANGED TO Tackle

V3: Close, Tackle/Strike FORFEITED

[Yagathai]

I'm positioning unarmed. Assuming a strict reading of the rules, even my bite is Short, not Shortest, so you get the positioning bonus die. Just like last time, I get 8D -2D +3D, or 9D. And I'm at a +1 Ob.

Roll 1: 6, 4, 5, 6, 1, 4, 3, 1, 1 = 5 successes, or 4 over Ob.

[Verrain]

Last time for the Tackle you were 8 Pow -2 from the net +2 from the Tackle= 8D. How are you 9D now?

I get my full 9D at +2ob 1, 4, 6, 4, 6, 4, 5, 2, 2 = 6 successes or 4 over Ob.

[Yagathai]

Horns give me +1D. If I didn't roll them last time, I should have.

ETA: No, I did. See Post #13.

Seeing that lunch was trying to stand up and scuttle away, Tiny launches himself from all fours, like a sprinter from the blocks. WHAM! Once again Tiny goes down in a heap. Unfortunately, lunch manages to wriggle free.

V1 A2 defaults to Stand and Drool.

[Verrain]

*nods* Very well. We have equal successes it looks like so the Charge maneuver fails and Tiny must hesitate yes? What does that mean for our relative positions? Did I withdraw or not?

[Yagathai]

Hang on, I must have misread your earlier post. I could swear that you had less successes. Let me edit.

ETA: OK, done. The Tackle failed, but we're still on the Inside, since you didn't succeed in your Withdraw either.

I've forfeited my last action to Stand & Drool in order to change my V2, A1 to Tackle again. Let me know if you've got any forfeits of your own, or otherwise, let's roll positioning.

[Verrain]

OK, so your Lock turns into hesitation and I successfully Stand up on all eight legs.

Eclavdra frantically wriggles out from under the bulk of the vile snack. Perhaps she made a mistake in thinking this one weak enough to be culled.

OK so a Tackle vs my Withdraw I am positioning with my bite so I retain weapon bonus.

That's 9D with no penalty. 2, 5, 2, 2, 1, 6, 5, 4, 1 = 4 Successes

No forfeits, but a reminder that you are prone and I am standing so you are at +2Ob.

[Yagathai]

Wait, no you're not. You're acquiring with a lariat. That means you're positioning with a lariat.

[Verrain]

I have no lariat at the beginning of the volley. Action one is to extrude it. So how can I position with a weapon I don't yet have?

[Yagathai]

OK, let's see. That's 9D, with a +2 Ob...

Roll 1: 5, 1, 6, 5, 3, 4, 5, 3, 5, 2 = 6D = 4 over Ob. Which means that my tackle fails again! Goddamn it!

ETA: Except, apparently I just rolled 10 dice there, not nine. Rerolling...

Roll 1: 4, 2, 1, 6, 6, 4, 4, 2, 4 = 6 successes = 4 over Ob. See my above cursing.

[Verrain]

Well Abzu swooped into our discussion thread and gave you a last minute reprieve from the governor saying that you get the weapon advantage. So the 10D was appropriate and I shall roll 8D for my positioning.

1, 6, 4, 1, 3, 5, 2, 6 = 4 successes so the cursing may continue. Failed tackle and failed withdrawl.

So this means you are hesitating in volley three not just without actions, yes?

[Verrain]

I am forfeiting my Throw Opponent Action to change my Throw Lariat action to Lock.

I automatically win positioning and so go for my 6D Agility Lock +1D for the Eight Legged trait.

Rolling 7D gives me 1, 4, 4, 3, 2, 2, 3 = only 2 successes.

I seem to recall that you don't get natural defenses while hesitating which would make it a 4D lock and Tiny a web wrapped snack.

Am I right with all this?

[Yagathai]

"The attacker still needs to test to beat any extant obstacles for injury or moving quickly, but after that, the victim gets no natural defenses."

Looks like it!

[Verrain]

Whew! That was great fun. Could have gone either way several times.