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jchokey
03-21-2008, 12:41 PM
It's clear from countless examples here on the forum that those present at a DoW between two characters can choose to help either one side or the other on specific actions (or even alternate between sides, should they wish to do so... and should the duellists accept their help, despite the flip-flopping).

But can others help when rolling for Body of Argument at the beginning of the Duel? Or must BoA be established by the duellist alone, without any help?
Kublai
03-21-2008, 02:14 PM
BoA is established by the duelist alone. No one can help.
luke
03-21-2008, 02:17 PM
Yes, you can help just like any other test.
xenomouse
03-21-2008, 02:18 PM
Yes, you can help just like any other test.

Really? Can you then FoRK for your BoA as well?
luke
03-21-2008, 02:37 PM
It is a test like any other. All of the basic testing rules in the Spokes apply to the Rim unless otherwise stated.
Thor
03-21-2008, 02:43 PM
We often insist that if a player helps with a body of argument, that player should only offer help to that side for the rest of the DoW. No helping the other side too. You've got to be committed to help with the BoA.
Jaroslav
03-21-2008, 02:49 PM
Yes, you can help just like any other test.

Hmm. Then, if you also helped during the actual duel, but switched sides, you could theoritically be chipping away at the same BoA point that you created. I suppose, in the end, it's not really any different than if you switch sides from one exchange to the next in the duel itself, it just sounded funny for second.

EDIT: Wow, Thor responded to this before I was even done typing it. Amazing!
jchokey
03-21-2008, 03:07 PM
It is a test like any other. All of the basic testing rules in the Spokes apply to the Rim unless otherwise stated.

OK, great... thanks for confirming.
jchokey
03-21-2008, 03:08 PM
We often insist that if a player helps with a body of argument, that player should only offer help to that side for the rest of the DoW. No helping the other side too. You've got to be committed to help with the BoA.

A-ha! You have correctly intuited my follow-up question-- which is whether helping during the BoA should limit you to only helping that side in subsequent actions. Thanks!
Kublai
03-21-2008, 03:56 PM
Gah! Really? I can't remember it being done in my experience.
stormsweeper
03-22-2008, 12:18 AM
Gah! Really? I can't remember it being done in my experience.

One of the last DoWs we had in THAC0 had help on the BoA. I don't remember which one exactly.
luke
03-22-2008, 12:23 AM
I think nearly every DoW for which our characters were present together involved help. It's anathema to Thor's style of play not to maximize dice!