Secret Suprise 7/1/08?!?!?

[Charlie]

GIMME.


But seriously, any hints?

[luke]

There are still no ninjas.

[Thor]

There are still no ninjas.

However, I neither confirm nor deny the inclusion of pirates, robots, monkeys, vikings or zombies.

[stormsweeper]

There are still no ninjas.

That's only because you can't see them.

[Kublai]

You wackos. Please make the homepage link to something! Anything! .... maybe not anything.

[luke]

You wackos. Please make the homepage link to something! Anything! .... maybe not anything.

Get over it, Webbie.

[Drozdal]

You wackos. Please make the homepage link to something! Anything! .... maybe not anything.DUDE the logo is like blurry and shit... :P

[burningassistant]

DUDE the logo is like blurry and shit... :P

quit your bitching and email me about the design problem I ACTUALLY ASKED YOUR OPINION ON

[Thor]

quit your bitching and email me about the design problem I ACTUALLY ASKED YOUR OPINION ON


She is the Burn MASTAH!

[pseudoidiot]

I bet the color is some kind of clue. Kind of a sky blue. Maybe a cloud cities setting! Ooh, or airships!

Or maybe it's supposed to be water. Pirates!

[Drozdal]

quit your bitching and email me about the design problem I ACTUALLY ASKED YOUR OPINION ONIt's your first post and you're already bitching...how predictable.

[stormsweeper]

I bet the color is some kind of clue. Kind of a sky blue. Maybe a cloud cities setting! Ooh, or airships!

Or maybe it's supposed to be water. Pirates!

The Truth is out there (http://history.nih.gov/exhibits/thinblueline/)

[luke]

It's your first post and you're already bitching...how predictable.

Let me translate that from Ponglish. What he's really saying is...

NO!

[John Anderson]

Cruel, so very cruel. :(
John

[pseudoidiot]

The Truth is out there (http://history.nih.gov/exhibits/thinblueline/)

That's really funny since I was also thinking it could be a powder or baby blue!

[cathexis]

Considering the soothing blue color, I am forced to assume that SSS08 is a game set in the late '70's, possibly (though I'm forced to not get my hopes up too much) dealing with driving cabs or maybe bar management. Burning Shots? Burning Checkers? The possibilities are endless.

[Drozdal]

Let me translate that from Ponglish. What he's really saying is...

NO!"And the cradle falls....down"

[Dwight]

The Truth is out there (http://history.nih.gov/exhibits/thinblueline/)
Burning Fetus? That'll be an instant classic of fatal proportions.


P.S. What the Secret Surprise really is? Spending the next 2 weeks figuring out how to get anywhere on the BW site using a non-visible menu. :rolleyes: ;)

[cathexis]

Nice triple post there!

[EarthenForge]

Eep! You're not making us wait until summer's end - woohoo! But dangit - I'll be camping and far away from teh internets on the 7/1. It'll be like showing up to the New Years party after midnight, except instead of partying, everyone's going to be playing ninja fetuses or something.

[Saphim]

Burning Fetus? That'll be an instant classic of fatal proportions.


P.S. What the Secret Surprise really is? Spending the next 2 weeks figuring out how to get anywhere on the BW site using a non-visible menu. :rolleyes: ;)
You know... you could just use www.burningempires.com ^^

Also: Gimme summer surprise kthxbai!

[Dwight]

Nice triple post there!
The board was sucking sloughwater when I was trying to post. The posting attempt errored out. I went to another tab and refreshed the thread and the post wasn't there. Then I tried again, a couple times, checking with the other tab. Eventually even just viewing the thread failed so I went away to let it sort out it's issues. ;) Looks like it's staightened out this morning thoug.

P.S. Saphim, the Wiki link is different from that page. Anyway I'm just using my browser history though you can figure out where you are going to go from the blue page if you've got your status line on and you watch that.

[cathexis]

Yeah, then my post vanished after I refreshed and I thought someone stealth modded me for being a giant dick. As for getting to the BW wiki, the BE and BW sites share the same directory layout, so you can go to the BE wiki and then change 'empires' to 'wheel' and you're golden.

[BobSlaughter]

A propsal around the Summer Special:

The Magic Burner prototype PDF chapters disappear from the wiki.
Luke announces another "Summer Special".

Do the math.

EXCEPT
It couldn't be that easy, could it? BWHQ couldn't actually be finally publishing the Book That Shall Not Be Spoken Of, could they?

If they are, I salute my Burning Overlords. Ftagn, and all that.

[birdlander]

I know it's only a little over a week away, but there is precedent for giving us tantalizing clues.

So come on, give us just a little whiff. Just to put us on the scent.

[Kublai]

I think you just inadvertently hit upon it in your very last post, birdlander!!

[luke]

Stand by.

The color was the first clue.

Next clue coming up tomorrow.

[Dwight]

I think you just inadvertently hit upon it in your very last post, birdlander!!
Is it Pepe el Hedor, the Mexican skunk?

P.S. We do know The Book That Shall Not Be Mentioned (http://burningwheel.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4873) has been getting worked on for some time. ;)

[luke]

Man, it took me a full two minutes to get my own joke.

Hah! It's funny!

Prepare for disappointment!

[Dwight]

Man, it took me a full two minutes to get my own joke.

Hah! It's funny!

Prepare for disappointment!
Too late, I'm already there. :p

[luke]

Well then, prepare for impact!

[Dwight]

Bracing for impact! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1UIWrkswvA)

[luke]

LOL!

Five seconds!

[Clyde Rhoer]

Come on guys. Do I always have to put all the clues together? D+D 4e has no Gnomes. Luke wants to make money. Looking to capitalize on prognome whine-er-ry, BWHQ presents... Burning Undertree. Gnomes coming at you with... like... fire, or something. Plus pseudo-pseudo dragons, and their master Phil Collins.

[stormsweeper]

Gnomes and Popes.

[cathexis]

Burning Gnomes, where you have to rub snow and fend off deadly leopard seals

[luke]

Ok, here's some preorder news:

SSS 08 will be revealed and launched next Tuesday, July 1st, midday -- during the EST work day. The exact time will be announced next Monday.


The preorder will run from July 1st to August 1st -- maybe up until Gen Con, we'll see.

Preordered books will be signed and hand numbered by me -- 001 to 200.
Preorders are limited to 200 books. That's right. After 200 books, preorders are over!

Preordered books cost $25 plus shipping.

There is a sweet limited edition preorder t-shirt for this book. The t-shirt costs $20. It will only be available during the preorder period. If you have any doubt about how sweet our t-shirt deals are, ask the lucky few got the black tengus from the Blossoms preorder.

Preorders ship August 18th-25th. We ship in the order received. So if you order first, you'll get your book first.

Preorders will NOT be available at Gen Con. We will NOT have signed and numbered copies at Gen Con. We WILL have regular edition of these books for sale at Gen Con.

There are NO PDFs of this book available. Ever. Do not ask.


The book is 296 pages, digest-sized. Art for this book includes a cover by Ian Miller and interiors by Chris Moeller, Richard Luschek, Kurt Komoda, Kev Sather, Jenn Rodgers and Jordan Worley among others.

-Luke

[steve]

The book is 296 pages, digest-sized. Art for this book includes a cover by Ian Miller and interiors by Chris Moeller, Richard Luschek, Kurt Komoda, Kev Sather, Jenn Rodgers and Jordan Worley among others.

-Luke

At least we know that its gonna be pretty, not that there was any doubt.

[johnstone]

Art for this book includes a cover by Ian Miller

Done. Sold.




EDIT: Dude! Did he not stick the Tzeentch symbol on the cover of your book?!?

[Saphim]

Please tell me you are going to accept paypal and will ship to yurope.

[luke]

We will only be accepting Paypal for payments this time around. No Google Checkout. Too primitive.

We ship worldwide, baby!

[Saphim]

*goes to load the paypal account*

[Tim Boser]

Is it gonna be available through IPR?

Tim

[cathexis]

Not the SSS08 release, but I'd put pretty good money on the real release being IPR'ed. Also, it might just be my connection, but IPR appears to be having some serious speed problems right now in case anyone is curious.

[luke]

Is it gonna be available through IPR?

Tim

The preorder is only available through BWHQ.

Eventually, the book will be at IPR and Key20 and Alliance, etc., etc.

[Black Spectrum]

Art for this book includes a cover by Ian Miller and interiors by Chris Moeller, Richard Luschek, Kurt Komoda, Kev Sather, Jenn Rodgers and Jordan Worley among others.
That's absolutely fantastic news! This alone would be enough for me to buy the book, regardless of content (though I'm confident that BWHQ has also cooked up something brilliant). :)

Rockin'.

[ChrisG]

Is the t-shirts sizes going to be likes the tengus?

I has tengus but is little smalls.

[Jaroslav]

My guess: blue is for the sky and the ocean, Luke has finally beat out all of the other publishers and secured the licensing rights for the Baywatch RPG. I can't wait!

[birdlander]

Luke has finally beat out all of the other publishers and secured the licensing rights for the Baywatch RPG. I can't wait!

Yep, and the GM will be known as the Hasselhoff.

[Paul B]

Is the t-shirts sizes going to be likes the tengus?

I has tengus but is little smalls.

Yeah, I got a tshirt last time and also found the size a little smaller than I had expected. Smallest XL I've ever bought; it was a real struggle to get it to stretch across my mighty biceps and lats.

p.

[stormsweeper]

Yeah, I got a tshirt last time and also found the size a little smaller than I had expected. Smallest XL I've ever bought; it was a real struggle to get it to stretch across my mighty biceps and lats.

p.

It's the general fit of American Apparel shirts. I have to wear a large myself, as the medium is a little too Chelsea for my tastes.

[haiiro]

Well, I've Googled all the artists, noted the proximity to the Mouse Guard RPG's (ahem) rumored release and sniffed around for any other hints -- I got nothing.

From Luke's solitary hint that I've read, blue doesn't seem right for Mouse Guard, and besides the page count is wrong. My detectoring skills are clearly inadequate.

You already own my ass, Luke, so it'd be pointless to pretend I won't be pining mightily for this fjord until 7/1. ;)

[LukeS.]

Ian Miller? holy shit.

huge fan since The Tolkien Bestiary. Daaaam, this is huge.

[pseudoidiot]

Yep, and the GM will be known as the Hasselhoff.

And must wear a t-shirt that says 'Noone hassles the Hoff'

[Fourth Horseman]

quit your bitching and email me about the design problem I ACTUALLY ASKED YOUR OPINION ON

Other than the fact that I couldn't find a link to ANYTHING on the forums for the past week ...

Did anybody else have this problem?

[Fourth Horseman]

Stand by.

The color was the first clue.

Next clue coming up tomorrow.


Burning Wheel: Blue

"The Porno Burner"

Where's my fucking T-shirt?

[pseudoidiot]

Burning Wheel: Blue

"The Porno Burner"

Where's my fucking T-shirt?


I'd buy it.

[luke]

The Tolkien Bestiary. I stared at it for 20 years. When I decided to publish, I said "I am going to hire that guy to do a cover for me one day."

Check!

Also, the shirts will most likely be American Apparels. AA has gotten better with sizes, but they might be a little small. My AA mediums from four years ago are smaller than my AA smalls now!

-L

[Trithemius]

If adventure games have taught me anything it is that magic is blue.

I suppose I have to finally get some Paypal action going now...

Luke, I have a question: are you going to get Ian Miller to draw you a brick as well?

[luke]

LOL! Unfortunately, no brick.

[ChrisG]

I gots large nipples and needs largest size.

[Luke Fleeman]

Might I ask why the pdf version will not be happening this time?

[Dwight]

Because Luke is a stalwart luddite Print Queen that doesn't want yours and my money. ;)

[stormsweeper]

You also can't convey the texture of smurf skin in PDF.

[johnstone]

Might I ask why the pdf version will not be happening this time?

Luke doesn't release PDFs of core books (aside from a free sample chapter or two). It's just settings that show up in full PDF.

Making it rather obvious what the SSS2008 actually is...

it can only be...

...the ADVENTURE BURNER!

[Z-Dog]

I'm guessing the Magic Burner. Man, the artists lined up for the book are awesome. Looking forward to finding out what it is and getting my hands on my 2nd BW T-Shirt.

And, of course, I suspect there's a lot of people around here that did a playtest early this year that are snickering and holding their breaths. Bastards. ;)

[Dwight]

My guess is a 'campaign burner'** with magic and 'adventure' and setting and everything rolled into it. Because really magic == setting for fantasy, it's what differentiates fantasy from the 'real' world. So the fit seems pretty natural. Only 3 days till we find out I guess.

EDIT: ** I guess you could call it a premise burner?

[Kublai]

Premise Burner!

Catchy that.

[Dwight]

Admittedly not as catchy as burning urination.

[Iskander]

Rumor I heard was "Burning Urethra"

[Fourth Horseman]

Seriously, I better get a FREE T-shirt and FREE book, considering Luke made me buy not only the monster burner, but the blossoms book as well. And I want some seriously personalized autographs and shit from all the contributors ...

If this does not happen there will be consequences and they may involve waterboarding ...

[Z-Dog]

Luke made you buy?

[cathexis]

Well, the know each other IRL, so it wouldn't surprise me if Luke started freaking out or something. Me, I'm going to be in class when SSS08 is released, the plan is to have my laptop out and online so I can buy that shit in the middle of lecture!

[Dwight]

Luke made you buy?
I heard in much the same way that he'll force Rich to pay for, and recieve, a Burning Urethra.

[zabieru]

Come on, guys, haven't you been listening to Luke? He hasn't said the words you said above in ages (I don't say them out of fear.) He's been saying something different lately...

Obviously SSS08 will be the HUG BURNER! (http://www.burningwheel.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5857&highlight=hug+master&page=3)

[two_fishes]

The release date for the product is Canada Day. Obviously this is the long awaiting Beaver Burner.

[Durgil]

The book is 296 pages, digest-sized. Art for this book includes a cover by Ian Miller and interiors by Chris Moeller, Richard Luschek, Kurt Komoda, Kev Sather, Jenn Rodgers and Jordan Worley among others.

-Luke
Wow, Richard Luschek, I really love all of the artwork that he has done with Harn.

So, the pre-orders start midday tomorrow, huh? :cool: How exciting! :D

[luke]

Richard was really nice to work with. Very professional. And, while all of his pieces are cool, one of them is going to knock your socks off!

-L

[Dwight]

Not surprising since it seems he's worked with BWHQ before. Only before it was using BWHQ personel as models (http://www.richardluschek.com/Illustrations/Ratter.html).

[Thunder_God]

So, when does the pre-order start, 1200?

[Dwight]

Five o'clock somewhere.


In the past the times of sales openning up have been approximate. The varying competence/diligence of BWHQ and it's charges providing a random factor to the equation. ;)

[Thunder_God]

Erm, is that supposed to mean "Around five o'clock", (EST), or the obvious, that it will be 1700 somewhere, when it starts? :P

[stormsweeper]

Not surprising since it seems he's worked with BWHQ before. Only before it was using BWHQ personel as models (http://www.richardluschek.com/Illustrations/Ratter.html).

Man, sewing that tail on Dro was quick, but it was really tough taking it off again.

[Dwight]

It's only half-past 12 but I don't care, it's five o'clock somewhere. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib8nH4kHjxk)

[Enlil]

Sigh, 12:14 eastern standard, and it is still a secret . . .

Christian

[Saphim]

GIMME secret summer surprise or I send masked Kerrn ninjas! :eek:

[cathexis]

Sigh, 12:14 eastern standard, and it is still a secret . . .

Christian

I believe Luke said 12:00 in the afternoon, so noon-ish, not midnight. Either way though, I'm waking up early to be a ravening game purchasing whore who lives only to give Luke my money.

[Pheel]

I believe Luke said 12:00 in the afternoon, so noon-ish, not midnight. Either way though, I'm waking up early to be a ravening game purchasing whore who lives only to give Luke my money.

Um, that would make you a ravening game purchasing John, putting Luke in the enviable position of game whore.

There's a queue forming, game whore. Be prepared.

[pseudoidiot]

Wait, did I miss something? All I saw was where Luke said the launch would be mid-day Tuesday and the exact time would be announced today. Did I miss where the actual time was stated?

[cathexis]

Um, that would make you a ravening game purchasing John, putting Luke in the enviable position of game whore.

There's a queue forming, game whore. Be prepared.

Damn, caught me!

As for release times, AFAIK he never got around to actually saying exactly when, but we're all assuming that his mention of "midday Tuesday" to mean "somewhere around noon eastern time."

[pants10]

how quickly are pre-orders known to sell out? I mean 200 is not that many and I really would like to be one of them but I am nervous because I don't know when I'll be at a secure connection after noon.

[Saphim]

Luke said on rpg.net that the last preorder took 3 weeks to sell that many copies. This one is limited, which probably means it will sell out faster, but I think if you come back in the evening you will be fine still.

[luke]

2 PM EST today.

-L

[David Artman]

2 PM EST today.
Ummm... is that when pre-orders open, or when you expect them to sell out, assuming a 1200 EST start time?

Brevity is the enemy of clarity.

[stormsweeper]

Ummm... is that when pre-orders open, or when you expect them to sell out, assuming a 1200 EST start time?

Brevity is the enemy of clarity.

http://www.burningwheel.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6140

[David Artman]

Thanks, saw it after posting.

[uriel_johan]

I´ll be depressed for the rest of the summer if I miss this preorder. I missed Falling Blossoms last year because I away on vacation and that made me very very sad.

Luck seems to be on my side so far because I thought I would have to work overtime today as usual and miss the release, but luckily I got called in yesterday to close the restaurant and got today off instead. Yay! So now I´ve spent an entire afternoon waiting, rereading threads (and feeling guilty for never posting anything) and caressing my numbered copies of the core books and BE.

Soon you will have company my precious ones... ;)

[Kublai]

The new homepage image is SCARY!

[Saphim]

Did it scare the hint away?! How mean!

[luke]

It's no so much a hint as a revelation at this point...

Load the front page!

[Saphim]

Yay Magic Burner

[Dwight]

Patience!
The time for tantilizing is over, time to put out. :p

[BobSlaughter]

A propsal around the Summer Special:

The Magic Burner prototype PDF chapters disappear from the wiki.
Luke announces another "Summer Special".

Do the math.

EXCEPT
It couldn't be that easy, could it? BWHQ couldn't actually be finally publishing the Book That Shall Not Be Spoken Of, could they?

If they are, I salute my Burning Overlords. Ftagn, and all that.

DAMN. I'm the first to post a guess it was the Magic Burner, and I miss out on the pre-order. I will be ordering this as soon as it shows up on IPR instead (unless someone at BWHQ has mercy on me).

On the other hand, Luke and BWHQ should be proud that it did sell out, and so quickly. BW is a great system, and I think it is slowly getting out into the larger community and being appreciated "in the trenches", even with all the negativity on some forums ("too indie" or "not indie enough").

[luke]

::rustle::rustle::

Hm, what's this? Looks like in the confusion, Katie found four unsold books.
Hm...what should we do with them?

Also, I have a very smart looking proof in my hands...

[Drozdal]

Hm...what should we do with them?Dangle them over the shark pit!

[santovendetta]

Bury them in four remote locations around the globe to be found by following a series of cryptic riddles.

Alternatively, hollow out three of them and replace their insides with a deadly scorpion and then let volunteers pick from the four.

[David Artman]

Throw them on eBay with a $25 reserve, and use the profits to throw a launch party for yourselves and the volunteers. Just be sure each is a single auction (so folks know which number they're getting), and don't list a Buy It Now price.

I, for one, would be curious to see what a signed (197 - 200) MaBu would go for, while the frenzy is high. And it seems the only fair way to let folks have a shot at one of four books--another "launch time" doesn't seem worth it and would be a bit unfair because irrelevancies like Internet latency and PC speed makes a BIG difference in being 1 of 4 (as opposed to 1 of 200, which took hours to resolve; 1 of 4 will take about 3 minutes).

[stormsweeper]

Alternatively, hollow out three of them and replace their insides with a deadly scorpion and then let volunteers pick from the four.

I'm not sure if I'm supposed to mention this, but the regular editions come with scorpions already. Good thing those suckers can hibernate almost indefinitely, eh?

[David Artman]

Bury them in four remote locations around the globe to be found by following a series of cryptic riddles.Shit, missed this reply.

Actually, I think GeoCaching them would be hotness. You'd have to be VERY clever with the clues, and try to site them in locations where you have a concentration of customers (check your sales records). But it would be novel....

[Dwight]

Five of them in total? Quite obvious. Distribute them randomly in chocolate bar wrappers. Whoever buys the chocolate bars they are packaged with gets a tour of the BWHQ game factory by a top hat clad Luke.

[pseudoidiot]

Shit, missed this reply.

Actually, I think GeoCaching them would be hotness. You'd have to be VERY clever with the clues, and try to site them in locations where you have a concentration of customers (check your sales records). But it would be novel....

GeoHashing (http://www.xkcd.com/426/) is the new hotness.

edit: changed URL. Also: http://blag.xkcd.com/2008/05/21/geohashing/

[Paul B]

Five of them in total? Quite obvious. Distribute them randomly in chocolate bar wrappers. Whoever buys the chocolate bars they are packaged with gets a tour of the BWHQ game factory by a top hat clad Luke.

Complete with pedophile overtones? Or is the bad touching extra?

p.

[Dwight]

Complete with pedophile overtones? Or is the bad touching extra?
Extra charge. But Thor and Dro dressing up in red latex coveralls and breaking out into song and dance is included.

[pseudoidiot]

Extra charge. But Thor and Dro dressing up in red latex coveralls and breaking out into song and dance is included.

Sign me up!

[EarthenForge]

::rustle::rustle::

Hm, what's this? Looks like in the confusion, Katie found four unsold books.
Hm...what should we do with them?


Eh?! Over two hours and no one's put dibs on them yet?
Merciful light of heaven! One of those is meant for me!
:: puppy dog eyes of hopefulness::

[John]

Eh?! Over two hours and no one's put dibs on them yet?
Merciful light of heaven! One of those is meant for me!
:: puppy dog eyes of hopefulness::

I wish you great luck (and to myself too), dibs, pretty please

[Funky Phantom]

::rustle::rustle::

Hm, what's this? Looks like in the confusion, Katie found four unsold books.
Hm...what should we do with them?

Also, I have a very smart looking proof in my hands...

The guy who made your Mouse Guard game at Origins start late and have too many people lives like five minutes from my house. I'll punch him for you for a copy. :)

[David Artman]

Five of them in total? Quite obvious. Distribute them randomly in chocolate bar wrappers.

FTW.


And I don't even eat chocolate....

[Fuseboy]

All right, who do I have to kill or sleep with (or both, just not in that order) to get one of those last four?

[EarthenForge]

So...it's been like 32 hours since mention of the secret final four books...and only 4 people have called dibs on this thread...I see no conflict here. :D

(Although, Michael's a good looking guy - you might want to take him up on his offer of sex first anyway.)

[luke]

Be patient. The books aren't going anywhere until next Thursday, I think. We'll get it sorted out.

-L

[stormsweeper]

So...it's been like 32 hours since mention of the secret final four books...and only 4 people have called dibs on this thread...I see no conflict here. :D

(Although, Michael's a good looking guy - you might want to take him up on his offer of sex first anyway.)

You'll have to wait for the weird cover of "All Along the Watchtower" to start playing to find out who gets them.

[EarthenForge]

You'll have to wait for the weird cover of "All Along the Watchtower" to start playing to find out who gets them.

LOL! I almost said that, too. But then, that means everyone who got in on the preorder is already a known cylon. So all I need to do now is start a civil war, then there'll be no lack of books...

[The Dragon Master]

Guess it's too late to call dibs? If another turns up, I call it.

Any notion when these books will hit online retailers?

[zabieru]

Any notion when these books will hit online retailers?

I don't know, but I heard this dude named Forum Search knows.

[Dwight]

I don't know, but I heard this dude named Forum Search knows.
Rowr! :)

Sometime after GenCon and the all numbered preorders are shipped, Dragon Master.

[The Dragon Master]

Rowr! :)

Sometime after GenCon and the all numbered preorders are shipped, Dragon Master.

Thank you blakkie. Didn't know if there had been some specific date listed somewhere that I had missed.

[steve]

Rowr! :)

Sometime after GenCon and the all numbered preorders are shipped, Dragon Master.

Have they been shipped? I just thought they had been numbered. Show me where it says they are shipped? Pleeeeease.

[EarthenForge]

Naw...you've got a solid month or more to wait. GenCon is mid-August.

[steve]

I must have read Blakkie's post wrong. whoops

[steve]

Is this the date that books start getting mailed out?


Date of Publication: August 13, 2008 (http://www.burningwheel.org/wiki/index.php?title=Publication_List#The_Magic_Burner)

[luke]

That is the date of the first day of Gen Con.

[jchokey]

Hey, I just realized that I ordered my copies to be sent to my work address... but with my upcoming move, my last day of work at this job is only going to be 8/15. If they're not shipping until mid-August, they'll come after I'm gone.

Is there a simple way to arrange for a new shipping address at this point? Or would I be better off just arranging for my (current) employer to forward them?

[luke]

Hm, what's this in my hand...

[Durgil]

Hm, what's this in my hand...
You're not say what I think you're saying, are you? :D

[jchokey]

Hm, what's this in my hand...

What has it gots in its pocketses.. er I mean handses? Tell us, precious!

[luke]

It's very blue.

[Verrain]

There's a cream that will clear that right up, Luke. :)

[EarthenForge]

There's a cream that will clear that right up, Luke. :)

Well, he might want to start by taking his hand off of it once in a while. Could just be lack of oxygen...

[wreckage]

Depends. Small and blue indicates a hot bath. Big and blue indicates immediate hospitalisation!!

[luke]

48 per case. Five cases.

[Hrafnaguð]

Hey, I just realized that I ordered my copies to be sent to my work address... but with my upcoming move, my last day of work at this job is only going to be 8/15. If they're not shipping until mid-August, they'll come after I'm gone.

Is there a simple way to arrange for a new shipping address at this point? Or would I be better off just arranging for my (current) employer to forward them?

Similar problem here. I'll be moving to Denver on 22 August with no way to receive mail at my old address. Like jchokey, I am looking for a way to arrange a new shipping address. Is there a procedure for this?

[Thor]

Similar problem here. I'll be moving to Denver on 22 August with no way to receive mail at my old address. Like jchokey, I am looking for a way to arrange a new shipping address. Is there a procedure for this?

You should both email Luke.

[luke]

I will try to get your orders out first. Shipping should only take 3 days once they're in the package.

-L

[Hrafnaguð]

I will try to get your orders out first. Shipping should only take 3 days once they're in the package.

-L

Thanks. This should do the trick. If you don't think it will make it before the 21st, just drop me a line and I'll give you a different address.

The anticipation is friggin' brutal.

[quixoteles]

Can I get this from Compleat on 33rd? Will it is released in your section?

[luke]

Yup. The Strat carries all my stuff. We've got a special arrangement.

[Merritt Baggett]

Ship mine later if other people are having priority issues. I'm not going anywhere and a few more days won't kill me (knock on wood).

[luke]

Yours is the next one I have to sign...

[pants10]

so, I don't mean to be impatient. But its my birthday so I use that as an excuse.

when exactly are they being shipped out? mid august was yesterday or today, but I have tracking information or "your package has shipped" messages. I'm curious if there is way to get this info or if there is still more waiting to do.

[jchokey]

I got mine yesterday! Although, I had mentioned to Luke the fact that I was moving and my address would be changing. So, it's possible he may have sent mine out earlier. (If so, thanks Luke!)

I've only had a brief chance to skim it so far, but I really like what I see.

[Dwight]

so, I don't mean to be impatient. But its my birthday so I use that as an excuse.

when exactly are they being shipped out? mid august was yesterday or today, but I have tracking information or "your package has shipped" messages. I'm curious if there is way to get this info or if there is still more waiting to do.
Besides the above mentioned special request by Mr. Chokey due to circumstances, Luke's said that they starting shipping after coming back from GenCon. Given that a 4-day convention normally means 6-8 hours sleeping out of 100+ hours ;) exact timing of when they start this week is up in the air.

[luke]

The first quarter are away!

-L

[steve]

I got my paypal confirmation! woohoo!

[John Anderson]

Yep, got my paypal notification and I'm here in a pointless village in Wales and I won't be back home until the weekend. It might be sitting there unread for days! Aargh!
John

[Verrain]

Fly on swift wings, little MagBu's!

Once again, I'll be really disappointed if it isn't dropped through my mail slot by an owl or something. I was looking for that shipping option but it wasn't in the pull down list.

[David Artman]

Woot! Got my notification! I should have it just in time for the weekend, where I can read it in between Olympic events. Drive like the WIND, Mr. USPS Driver!

Mailbox! Open mailbox! :D

[Dwight]

I was looking for that shipping option but it wasn't in the pull down list.
Huh? Isn't that what "Best Shipping" is referring to?

[jb.teller4]

I just got my Paypal confirmation!!! Woot! And just two days ago my group decided we're going to start our first BW campaign in the next couple weeks. It's been a good couple days... :D

(I'll post the campaign burning notes once we start.)

[Verrain]

Huh? Isn't that what "Best Shipping" is referring to?

I sure hope so because Paypal sends the label is printed!

*Goes to open a window for the owl*

[Trithemius]

I haven't received any PayPal anything yet...

*starts getting jittery*

[luke]

I hate shipping. Dro and I are retards.

We forgot to sign a few of the international customs forms.
We tried to meekly retrieve them from the bin. No one could help us until a supervisor appeared. He seemed polite and well spoken. It turned out he was Post Satan. He explained while holding one of our flat rate envelopes:

"This is no longer a flat rate envelope. This has a bulge in it. It has a t-shirt in it, doesn't it? Let's take this over to the machine and see how much postage it requires."

My jaw bounced against my sternum, but I quickly recoverd. I continued smiling and nodding, hoping this would turn out for the better.

After some noodling with the machine, it turns out that the postage is just fine.

"Well, there is some leeway, some give, for these types of packages."

He then proceeds to write on the package in neat script, "Verified postage on automatic postage machine." He then deftly draws an arcane symbol.*

"Let me go back and get your international packages." He returned a moment later with dear Claus Jacobsen's package. It contained one book wrapped in bubblewrap.

Post Satan continued, "Oh yes. Hm. This isn't an envelope any more either. You see, it's kind of soft." His maniples pressed the package like a roll of Charmin.

"Yes," I responded. "It's got bubblewrap around a book. It's an international order." I hoped my simple explanation might placate Post Satan. It did not.

"Well, I'm afraid it's not a flat rate envelope any more."

"That's funny, because I've shipped hundreds of these packages from this post office."

"Oh well, that's odd. We get a lot of angry customers coming in with returned packages, wanting to know the reason. Well, it's like that guy with that pair of sneakers on the plane. He ruins one good pair of sneakers and it ruins it for the rest of us!"†

At this point, my jaw was bouncing against the hard marble floor. My eyes were pleading with Dro to leap from behind and attack Post Satan so I could flee. Alas, he didn't see me.

"If you'll just take your package to the window. They'll weigh it as a package. We have a very short line now. We have a bunch of good clerks on."

In awe at the powers of Post Satan, I glided into the line.

Pray for your packages, little children. We dropped off 34 more. They are in the clutches of Post Satan.

*I am not making this up!

†I swear he said this.

[lexifab]

Damn you Post Satan! I wants my preciouses!

...don't make me come over there...

Dave

[Aramis]

complain to jerk-boy's boss.

[luke]

complain to jerk-boy's boss.

Your naivete is charming. In Hell, who's the boss?

[John Anderson]

Luke, this side of the pond these officious bastards are known as 'Jobs-worths' ("I would love to help mate, but it's more than me Jobs worth" said with sneering voice and wringing hands) and there is a special place in hell reserved just for them. I truly sympathise and am amazed you both managed to get out of there with your sanity intact. Bastards like that are why tall towers and high powered rifles were invented...
John

[Kublai]

There's a test in there somewhere for you!

[stormsweeper]

There's a test in there somewhere for you!

Bureaucracy. All tests against the USPS inflict a triple obstacle penalty.

My last challenging test at the Farley Post Office was when one of the automated machines screwed up printing a certified mail label. I had to deal with Post Demons until I worked my way up to Post Satan. Thankfully, I have a call-on, so I was able to make that test.

[Trithemius]

He then proceeds to write on the package in neat script, "Verified postage on automatic postage machine." He then deftly draws an arcane symbol.*

Clearly you must learn this sign, and the corrupting magic needed to enforce it upon the universe.

[Aramis]

Your naivete is charming. In Hell, who's the boss?

Having gotten several USPS employees "Leave without pay for disciplinary reasons" over such violations...

You just need to go to the city or state postmaster's office, and talk to the mail fraud unit, pointing out the employee was trying to defraud you by charging excess postage.

Last I checked, the Flat Rate envelope didn't have to be flat... merely sealed in the correct spot, to get the flat rate. That was 2 months ago.

Correction; that was 2 minutes ago:
http://pe.usps.gov/text/imm/immc2_013.htm#ep1893258

From the sound of it, you got robbed by a postal employee.

(For reference, i used to work for the US Gov't... NARA... I got really good at going over annoying idiot-boys' heads and getting their bosses to take remedial action...)

Game mechanic: persuasion with FoRKS for Bureacracy-Wise, USPS-Wise, and Google-foo.

[John]

Luke, this side of the pond these officious bastards are known as 'Jobs-worths' ("I would love to help mate, but it's more than me Jobs worth" said with sneering voice and wringing hands) and there is a special place in hell reserved just for them. I truly sympathise and am amazed you both managed to get out of there with your sanity intact. Bastards like that are why tall towers and high powered rifles were invented...
John

quite correct John, they employed in either the 6th or 7th circle as punishing daemons for crimes against humanity & murder

[luke]

Thanks Aramis. We've got it under control here. My story only tells the ugly bits!

[Dwight]

Last I checked, the Flat Rate envelope didn't have to be flat...
What are you talking about? That's the "Flat" in "Flat Rate" isn't it? ;)

@Luke

Hehe, well at least you realized you had missed the signatures and they didn't get bounced back.

Fight the power! Down with the Man! Especially the little, sniveling officious Man that derives enjoyment from abuse of the little bit of power their job gives over some people. Maybe you should have suggested that he just leave you alone and instead get his powertrip-over-random-folk jollies as a DM at a Living Forgotten Realms RPGA event? :rolleyes:


EDIT: Maybe he just wanted to discourage bubblewrap and such? Using that stuff makes it a lot harder for the sorting folks to beat the crap out of the contents. :p

[Dwight]

BTW you were able to get 2 books + T-Shirt into the standard package I assume? Was that the one that bulged a bit? I got my Paypal notice yesterday afternoon. Godspeed little bundle of magic! :)

[Z-Dog]

Bureaucracy. All tests against the USPS inflict a triple obstacle penalty.
.

It killed me to read that 'finding useful and timely information' using your Bureaucracy skill in the BW char burner was Ob 7 or 8.

[John]

Daemons of postaldom strike:

quote email:


Your package will be sent by PayPal Postage with US Postal Service

luke crane used PayPal Postage with US Postal Service to create a postage label for your package.

Your dispatch number is LJ 12 3456 789U S.

quote usps webpage:


Search Results

Label/Receipt Number: LJ 12 3456 789U S

There is no record of this item.

the saga begins .... to be fair its just gone out so lets see what happens, fingers crossed it will be an August arrival

[luke]

When did you get that email?

[John Anderson]

When did you get that email?

Well I got the same email over here in Blighty on the 19th of August. You sound surprised that we got an email? Please don't tell me it's all going pear-shaped already. ;)
John

[Dwight]

When did you get that email?
Yeah Redhammer, if you just got the email today that would make sense that the record isn't available on the website. The website is batch updated nightly. For example I got my paypal acknowledgement email yesterday and all they have in it is that the tracking number had been created [by BWHQ]. USPS isn't even showing on that website that they've received the package, I don't expect it to acknowledge that until they update the website tonight.

[John]

luke, I got it today, no worries all - I am chilled I have faith in luke's ward evil bureaucracy skill

[The Dragon Master]

Just wanted to toss this info in for those looking, according to key20.com (http://www.key20.com/pages.php?pageid=7) the magic burner will be shipping from them on November 10th, and should be available for order sometime this month (http://www.key20.com/recent_products.php).

Yay!

[luke]

All orders have shipped! Let me know what went wrong and we will fix it!

-L

[incantar]

The USPS's website has indicated that the Magic Burner package arrived in Madison, hopefully it will be in my hands this afternoon.

Ed

Update: Just arrived, I'm lucky number seven! Thanks Luke.

[donbaloo]

Magic Burner arrived today and looks very sharp. Again, congrats on another fine piece of work Luke!

[buzz]

Mine arrived today, number 14. So! Happy!

[pseudoidiot]

Yay, just got mine. Can't wait to sit down and read through it. T-shirt is very shiny and awesome.

[luke]

Finally!

[cathexis]

My nerd shipment has reached Federal Way! Now it just needs to leave the sorting facility and make the 30 mile drive north to my house. Sadly, books don't move themselves, and the postal service tends to refuse weekend deliveries...

[pauld]

A very neon number 51 (plus equally neon t-shirt) arrived in Hertfordshire, UK this morning :)

Cheers BWHQ - looks awesome!

http://drussel.net/images/Josh_Magic.jpg
"Daddy, can I play a Death Priest?"

[Dwight]

Oh oh, the USPS website still hasn't confirmed receipt of my package from Luke. That's not a good sign, is it?

[Saphim]

I got the email 4 days ago, yet the tracking page says this:

The U.S. Postal Service was electronically notified by the shipper on August 19, 2008 to expect your package for mailing. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date. Delivery status information will be provided if / when available. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later.


Is that good or bad?

[pseudoidiot]

The USPS tracking stuff is shit. I pretty much just completely ignore it when I get anything through them. As long as I know when it was shipped, I've got a good idea of when to expect it.

[Dwight]

As long as I know when it was shipped
That's my only concern, really. Knowing that it did shipped at all. As long as it got to them it'll get here when it gets here. *shrug*

[Verrain]

#72 and it is so blue. :D

[birdlander]

#28. Don't read the death art chapter just before bedtime, kids. ;)

[Black Spectrum]

I got the email 4 days ago, yet the tracking page says this:

The U.S. Postal Service was electronically notified by the shipper on August 19, 2008 to expect your package for mailing. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date. Delivery status information will be provided if / when available. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later.


Is that good or bad?
I got the same message when I checked their page yesterday. And then I got my book an hour later... (#15, btw).

[John Anderson]

Number 46's landed in blighty! After a particularly shite day at work it was a nice surprise waiting for me when I got home. :)
John

[Dwight]

I got the same message when I checked their page yesterday. And then I got my book an hour later... (#15, btw).
So that webpage isn't even reliable enough to see whether or not they received the package. Excellent, then I shall just play The Waiting Game ..... ..... .... The Waiting Game sucks.

[stormsweeper]

The USPS tracking works on pickup and delivery, and not really any stops in between. I'm presuming Luke dropped these off, so no "pickup" scan, and I guess when the USPS hands these off to your local carriers they don't get a "delivered" scan.

Also, Dwight, you are now at the mercy of Canada Post. Those guys are a menace.

[Dwight]

Also, Dwight, you are now at the mercy of Canada Post. Those guys are a menace.
But a gentle, bumbling menace. Unlike their US counterparts they don't pull out the hardware when the true crappiness of their job finally dawns on them. :) They just start dropping acid on top of their anti-depressants (yes, I know a guy that used to walk a route and did that till his Dr. told him to stop frying his brain so badly).

The real PITA are the Gestapo drones at the border and the sycophant businesses that that feed of their bureaucracy.

[vikingmonkey]

#40 arrived on Friday. Haven't been able to read it in full, but it promises to be yet another great BW product. Thanks go out to the entire BWHQ staff for this little Bright Blue Book.

[Funky Phantom]

199/200 just arrived in New Philadelphia, Ohio. It came wrapped in an uncut, unattached Magic Burner cover. My friend's copy, 47, didn't come with one, so I'm thinking it's an extra. Thanks, Luke! According to this uncut cover, the shade of blue is Pantone Reflex Blue C. :)

[uriel_johan]

#56 and #57 arrived in Sweden. Good thing you didn't dedicate both to me, one will become a hopefully awesome christmas gift.

[robotny]

#55 safe and sound in Stockholm, Sweden! Even the Postal Service envelope was in pristine condition(!).

[Eye_Tyrant]

#178 landed in St. Louis. I'll be putting some of this stuff into play immediately.

[Paul B]

#77 arrived in Tempe, Arizona while I was gone this weekend. Some jackass scribbled something in it.

;-)

p.

"What's this? Old wine? Bring us the new stuff!" -- Steve Martin, The Jerk

[steve]

number 8 arrived in sunny Australia.

Cheers BWHQ!

Oh yeah and to answer your question.. Bringer of Darkness! mwahahahahah

[cathexis]

#81 and #61 (mine and Devin's respectively) showed up in exceptionally damp Seattle. Mine appears to have come with a backup cover as well, presumably in case something happens to my first one. It looks really good, can't wait to have a bit more time so I can really dig into it.

[Episkopos]

I've been MaBu'd!

193 is here in the Valley of the Sun.

Thanks Luke!

[Saphim]

Number 11 just arrived in germany and is absolutely gorgeous - Jenn Rodgers and Chris Moeller in a single book (and many other artists of course, but those two are favourites of mine)!

Thank you Luke and Crew!

[Menecrates]

#155 safe and shiny arrived today to Spain!

Congrats WBHQ!

[MadJay]

#140 - in Kansas City!! Locked myself away from the world to read it. Ohh, the bad , wicked, foul things I'm gonna do!!
The essays were awesome - Corruption is soooo sweet!
And the One Ring...wholly-moley, I want it after just reading it!!

[David Artman]

Number 2 arrived Friday, with the cryptic signature comment "Are you Maker or Unmaker? -Luke"

Dude... I'm Adept. Shocked you'd even have to ask....

[Dwight]

my hat of canada customs nose know bowndz

[Thor]

Dude... I'm Adept. Shocked you'd even have to ask....

What's your Adept's mistake? :p

[johnstone]

canadia custums gived me a hat, too!

[David Artman]

What's your Adept's mistake? :pVocalism

[NeilFord]

152 arrived safely in the UK this morning. Unfortunately it is going to have to sit, untouched, until I get back from my weekly gaming session.

- Neil.

[John]

#200 - The Blue Hammer Burner arrived safely in London today.

Thanks BWHQ

PS Neil I can read mine now :D

[zipht]

#97, arrived in Northern VA yesterday.. Mine has this funny stamp.. and apparently
I need to cleansing myself.. in magic Fire.

Could this be a coded message? Did I have gamer funk at Dreamation 08?

Look man, da wife and I, drove most of BWHQ crew to lunch.. What more do you want? :rolleyes:

Nick

[pants10]

Number 39 arrived on friday, and I've been so busy reading it, preparing my campaign, and just enjoying my break I have not even had a chance to come post my number yet ^_^ I'll be doing that tonight.

[Mark Watson]

No. 163 Mark/200 has been safely delivered into my hands.

Since then, it's proving to be a constant companion, whispering terrible secrets into the night....

All goodly!

[Iskander]

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8384/joshmagiccl6.png

Fixed.

[GreedyAlgorithm]

"It's fucking on fire."

:D

[Trithemius]

It killed me to read that 'finding useful and timely information' using your Bureaucracy skill in the BW char burner was Ob 7 or 8.

The real question is does the spread of EDRMSs increase or decrease this!

[Trithemius]

#196 'there is magic within' has arrived in Canberra as well.

At least now I won't have to hunt and kill insmouth for his (he was showing it off at our BE game last night)...

[Saphim]

Done reading now. Got only one word: Brilliant.

[pauld]

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8384/joshmagiccl6.png

Fixed.lol, dat's ma boy! :)

[Seji]

3/200 (woo hoo! When I ordered I was 18!) arrived safely. Thanks!

However, there was no t-shirt in the evenlope. Will it be sent separately?

[luke]

seji,
email me at ravilar@burningempires.com and we'll get it sorted out.

[Seji]

Thanks, Luke. Check your mailbox.

[pseudoidiot]

Was wearing my awesome Magic Burner t-shirt tonight and a friend of mine complimented it a couple times saying how cool he thought it looked. So the t-shirts have a rocking design even to people that know nothing about Burning Wheel. Just thought I'd share!

[elmago79]

#175 arrived mostly undamaged in Mexico City on Friday. Many tears of joy later, I'm ready to start deciphering my grimoire.

[David Artman]

OK, so who got #1, then? Secret?

[luke]

It's not a secret from our end. I guess he just doesn't want to post...

[David Artman]

Afraid of our jealous wrath, no doubt. But we shall stalk him, nonetheless, even when it means going to his town... uh, what was it's name again?









;)

[Matthew]

not got mine yet... although the shipping notice said up to 10 working days, meaning I should have it by Friday

*fingers crossed*

[Shaun]

#13 arrived safely in Chico, CA on 8/20. I have yet to summon my familiar.

[Matthew]

not got mine yet... although the shipping notice said up to 10 working days, meaning I should have it by Friday

*fingers crossed*

Sad to say, mine hasn't showed up yet... any way I can chase it up?

[Dwight]

Figures. A couple of days after a "3 month" work project, with a deadline of the end of September, kicked off for me #69 (and #68) arrived. (http://w537.photobucket.com/pbwidget.swf?pbwurl=http://w537.photobucket.com/albums/ff333/DwightF69/08d7d67e.pbw)


P.S. There was weeks of special grooming techniques along with technological trickery that went into preparation for that photo series. :) I'm also wearing the Shud'up And Wizard T-shirt but the lighting in here doesn't show it off very well so I didn't bother to stand up for it.

[luke]

::huge sigh of relief::

The Magic Burner, it's inverted!

::makes sign to avert evil::

[Drozdal]

::tests Folklore to keep undead at bay::

[Trithemius]

Success?

::lovingly strokes Post Satan-repelling talismans::

If only I had as much luck with other postal adventures. :(

[Dwight]

The Magic Burner, it's inverted!

::makes sign to avert evil::
That didn't work for those people that watched the video tape and it isn't going to work for you either. :p

[stormsweeper]

(For Photo Booth you can set "auto flip" in the Edit menu. No idea why it is not the default.)

[Dwight]

No idea why it is not the default.)
For easier identification of the nubs? :) I assume it is so that it acts like the user looking into a mirror, which most people are used to. Thanks for the tip though. I've never used Photobooth before (my son's computer, though he uses it a ton). I figured there was a setting somewhere but thought it was oddly appropriate for this. ;)

[ChrisG]

Hey BWHQ, just got mine (and Mr Vomits At Will's) in the mail a couple days ago and worked my way through the essay, Gifted and Practical Magic.

You've done it again! Really great stuff. Well worth the wait.

[luke]

Hey, if you haven't already, post your book numbers to the wiki:
http://www.burningwheel.org/wiki/index.php?title=Burning_By_Numbers

[Yagathai]

Hey BWHQ, just got mine (and Mr Vomits At Will's) in the mail a couple days ago

Wait, why did you get my copy?

[ChrisG]

There is only one Vomits At Will on this forum. Only one.

AND HE DOES NOT SHARE POWER!