Monster Burner Second Printing Errata

[luke]

Hi kids,

Crack open your Monbu and check the info over the copyright on the credits page. If it says SECOND PRINTING WITH CORRECTIONS, I'm looking for your help.

If you have the second printing, have you noticed any errata that needs fixing? I've got to reprint the sucker!

-L

[stormsweeper]

For the "Ancient Ways" skill (p220) - replace the line about downloading the Summoning chapter with a reference to the Magic Burner

[Black Spectrum]

The Dragon's MW and PTGS seem fishy. The MW is listed as G16, but should be W1 as on the PTGS. Furthermore, it doesn't seem to be possible to construct a sensible PTGS from the rules listed on page 340 (according to which it should be Su: G4(=B20), Li: W8(=B40), Mi: eh...?, Mo: W1).

The Creature Codex still has some BWC remnants, e.g. the Grey Gremlin and the Snake have the Mr. Lee! trait, and the Calydon has Walking/Jogging/Sprinting ratings listed in the Galloping Sprint trait. There might be more.

There are also a number of mistakes in the MW/PTGS in the Creature Codex:
- Greater Dæmon's MW should be G15
- the Ox is listed has having a MW of B14 under its Attributes, but only B12 on the PTGS. Both are wrong, though, as it should be B13...
- the Pig should have a MW of B8 and not B14!
- the Sheep's PTGS has a wrong MW listed
- the Cougar/Mountain Lion's PTGS is also wacked
- Snake/Adder/Viper has a listed MW of B8 but is Squished at B4... It should probably also have some stature related trait (e.g. Tiny, which would make the Squished at B4 correct)
- the Greater Seraph's MW should be G12
- the Troll Warlord's MW should be B14

[luke]

Now that's what I'm talking about.

[Black Spectrum]

More typos in the Creature Codex (Trolls):

- Brute's Hook Hand should read: I B5, M B10, S B15, VA 2 (including the +1 VA from Exp 7+ Power)
- Brute's Charging Horns should read: I B5, M B10, S B15, VA 3, Unwieldy
- Brute's Head butt IMS is also wonky
- Ironshield's Mattock (when used one-handed) should read: I B6, M B11, S B16, VA 3
- Ironshield's Mattock (when used two-handed) should read: I B6, M B12, S G2, VA 3
- Ironshield's Shield Bash should have a VA of 2 due to the troll's high Power
- Troll Warlord's Hammer (well, Mattock) should have a VA of 3
- Troll Warlord does not have any stuff, even though he has e.g. Shield Training and some nice whipping Traits...

[Black Spectrum]

Page 141 (Spider Abilities in Brief): the Eight-Legged trait still refers to Walking/Jogging/Sprinting multipliers.

Page 147, 4th line in the Eight-Legged Trait: should read "A Great Spider has a Speed multiplier of x4."

[David Artman]

Luke, can we get a deadline? I finished reading last night, but didn't have any means of noting (in bed). I plan to re-read--faster, knowing the content and only having to read the grammar--but I want to know if I should bother or if I'd be half way through (again) when you went to press.

Also, do you want layout issues, as well? I spotted a couple of problems with text overlapping art (both illos and borders); and the Traits compilation, in general, has what seems to me to be odd errors--listing headings in your "running sidebar" that don't appear on the page (usually on a previous or next page, indicating to me that you didn't use a DTP program which allows those to be auto-populated, like FrameMaker; but instead prolly had to manually populate them; yes?).

David

[David Artman]

Two potential reviewing days, lost to being on hold, due to wanting to know if there's time enough for me to finish before a firm project deadline.

(AKA "bump/hello?")

[luke]

David, I would appreciate any input you have. Please post errata as quickly as possible.

-L

[Merritt Baggett]

For the "Ancient Ways" skill (p220) - replace the line about downloading the Summoning chapter with a reference to the Magic Burner

Speaking of that chapter, will the main books be printed with revised Sorc/Faith rules or without them entirely in light of the Mag Bu?

Or will they be left in, in a "use this if you don't have the Mag Bu" sort of way?

[Aramis]

Dwarves not listed on the page 45-46 table of speed multipliers, porpoises and whales probably should have note of "in water".

Page 116: lowest age bracket for Roden is below minimum age for their born lifepaths.

I couldn't find Bee Husbandry listed, even by reference, other than in the bee-keeper lifepath (p. 110) Should at least have a reference to Animal Husbandry in the Character Burner, (BWR, p227) which lists "insect husbandry"...

[luke]

Furthermore, it doesn't seem to be possible to construct a sensible PTGS from the rules listed on page 340 (according to which it should be Su: G4(=B20), Li: W8(=B40), Mi: eh...?, Mo: W1).

Looking this over again, I think you're misreading that section Andreas. Check out the Raksha example. You should be adding exponent to exponent. Why are you adding B20 to B20? There is no B20!

-L

[luke]

Also, voting is closed on Monbu errata. Thanks!

[Black Spectrum]

Looking this over again, I think you're misreading that section Andreas. Check out the Raksha example. You should be adding exponent to exponent. Why are you adding B20 to B20? There is no B20!

-L
Oh, it's quite likely that I'm misreading it. But if I were to follow the rules as written, since the dragon has a White Mortal Wound the Superficial Wound should be placed at twice the Forte exponent (so 2x10 = B20 = G4), and then add again twice the Forte exponent to get the Light Wound (G4 + 2x10 = G24 = W8). Of course, all of this is only an issue because the cheating dragon manages to squeeze out the odd W1 Mortal Wound!

Yeah, I'm deliberately being obtuse here... ;)

[stormsweeper]

Yeah, PTGS gets wonky for G/W mortal wounds if the MW is a lighter shade than Forte. My best suggestion is to factor the Supie and Light tolerances as if it were the shade of Forte. Still, in this case you would end up with:

Su: B10 Li: G4 Mi: G13 Se: G15 Tr: G16 MW: W1

instead of what the Dragon has.

The PTGS seems incorrect for most of the critters with Gray MW's.

[luke]

Superficial tolerance should always start in the black shade.

[stormsweeper]

Superficial tolerance should always start in the black shade.

With a white-shade MW and a Forte of 9 or 10, you'll get a gray supie. You even say to do this on p.370!

The math only gets screwy when you "round up" a MW into the next shade because it's higher than 16. This pretty much only happens with the Gigantic Stature trait and Forte/Power at 10.

[luke]

argh.

[John]

I know its too late but stumbled across that this morning and thought I would put it up for the next revision ...

pg 192 Where There's a Whip 7th line it should read:
... the Troll can force the ...

it says Orc.

[Dwight]

Sounds like a great problem to solve using Global Replace.