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eruditus
01-20-2005, 01:34 PM
Okay so I was runnig an Arena in several systems and I'd like to either include the following concepts OR maybe start my own Arena and give it a spin.

I'd love to hear what people think.

Ultimately this is a roleplaying game. Without context and consequence the game becomes shallow (or at least shallower).

Things I'd like to see included:

A goal: Why are we fighting? What are the reprocussions to defeat and triumph? Are their competing factions? Where do the champions come from? What do they get if they win...in game? how are the culture the champions come from impacted by wins and losses?

A exchange system: Getting gold or resource points to spend beteen bouts. As well as things to pay for and ways to use the money and then a means to fine or disqualify fighters or "managers" for misconduct. I'd love to see a blood-money system in place where as an act of respect you pay for the burial costs of the fallen.

A sense of time: I'd like to see fighters that carry over wounds and have to recuperate between fights or pay for healing. I'd like to see the BW training and practicing rules used and thus fighters need to stop training to fight and pay for upkeep... if your paid more for your successes then the more bouts you win the higher your lifestyle and maybe even your health becomes.

Support Characters - bookies, merchants, craftsman, managers, trainers, etc. An interplay of a community and an economy allows more diverse characters, skills, use of resources and also allows people who may not be interested in combat to participate in the Arena indirectly.

I think thye Arena is cool and is being done VERY well. i just think we'd all enjoy any depth put to it as well. Additionally, many of these options reduce the effectivness of comlete toonage if there are different aspects to the character's lives.

Yagathai
01-20-2005, 01:38 PM
Someone's been playing a lot of MMORPG's. :P I don't think we need any of those things, personally.

I like it the way it is. Not a "virtual community". Not a "story". Not a "persistent world". Just... fighting.

jc_madden
01-20-2005, 01:47 PM
3 cheers for "just fighting" that's what this arena is about'; an exhibition of the combat system (and soon to be new system). As for 'role-playing' and persistant worlds... join my PbP!

luke
01-20-2005, 01:57 PM
I think the Arena is cool and is being done VERY well. i just think we'd all enjoy any depth put to it as well. Additionally, many of these options reduce the effectivness of complete toonage if there are different aspects to the character's lives.

While it may not look like it on the front end, Pete and Thor are completely overwhelmed running the Arena as it stands now. Both have put in a number of late nights in the past few weeks to keep everything running.

Your suggestions are great and dead on, Don, but until something happens to lighten the load all around, I think Pete's Arena is going to remain as it is: complete combat toonage. And that's ok. 'Twas Pete's intent, anyway.

-L

eruditus
01-20-2005, 03:21 PM
So does that also mean no one would want to see this sort of thing fleshed out in another venue? Another BW Arena run by others NOT overwhelmed?

jc_madden
01-20-2005, 03:27 PM
I think the idea of all that detail is NEAT. There's only one problem, all that work and then the toons DIE. It's a fatal arena. Even if you ran it like a normal BW campaign that much combats going to get deadly. Usually there's a lot more TALKING in bw than stabby-stabby.

Verrain
01-20-2005, 03:28 PM
Last I checked the Play by Post forum was open to all comers, eruditus. If you start a game based around arena combat, I'd likely join up.

jc_madden
01-20-2005, 03:30 PM
Verrain you're going to have your hands full with all those games! :P

Verrain
01-20-2005, 03:32 PM
That's the beauty of play by post and play by mail. Each one only requires a few minutes a day. I've routinely juggled half a dozen games without difficulty. Besides, as evidenced by Kane's attempt, a lot of them tank. So I try to get in on the ground floor often hoping they will go the distance.

jc_madden
01-20-2005, 03:34 PM
Considering I LIVE on the net, if we can get a couple more players for BW sci fi I'll have no problem keeping it going.