View Full Version : I got an ebook reader!
Berandor
06-11-2010, 07:33 AM
So... any chance of Burning Wheel ebook editions? I assume the answer is no, but I still wanted to ask.
gooderguy
06-11-2010, 08:43 AM
dude, i would pay $20 bucks for one of these. $50 for the whole set. do it. it's actually fairly easy to convert a .pdf to an ebook version.
Valannor
06-11-2010, 09:02 AM
I vote for Kindle, and if you do, you've got my $50 too :)
Aramis
06-11-2010, 10:15 AM
My sony handles PDF just fine as a native format. No conversion needed. In fact, several do. It is the one area where Amazon screwed the pooch badly; they have not made a decent PDF handling capability for the Kindle.
Yagathai
06-11-2010, 10:52 AM
Really? I don't have one myself, but the GM in my Thursday game has a Kindle and he uses it for PDF viewing all the time.
Valannor
06-11-2010, 10:55 AM
Yeah, I can use pdf's on the Kindle, but they cannot be fully manipulated (zoom, etc)
Also... stupid question time... does this mean the BWR rules ARE available as regular pdfs???
Berandor
06-11-2010, 11:07 AM
No, only the lifepaths, and while I own them, they're two pages scanned as one image. That's too small to read somewhat comfortably.
A nice, single-page PDF would be great – Epub or something would be awesome.
Disclaimer: I own a Sony Reader.
John Anderson
06-11-2010, 11:34 AM
I know it's not BW, but how does it cope with BE and/or MG?
John
Yagathai
06-11-2010, 11:35 AM
If you have the acrobat tools installed, you can reformat that easily enough to make it bigger/multipage.
Kestral
06-11-2010, 12:49 PM
Burning PDFs are a dangerous call. I personally know at least four people who have bought complete Burning Wheel sets only after they completed an exhaustive search for downloadable PDF versions. Piracy exists, it's rampant, and the Burning games are some of the only ones out there that have escaped mostly untouched. As much as I'd like to have the collection in my iPhone, I'd rather Luke et al be paid for their work.
Totally Guy
06-11-2010, 01:00 PM
Someone messaged me the other day asking for a link to the SRD for "that Wheel game you always talk about". He then went on to say he wanted to refluff it to be USA Burn Notice with spies and subterfuge set in a modern day super city.
Valannor
06-11-2010, 01:08 PM
I think you mean "Burning Notice" :P
:D
Dwight
06-11-2010, 01:13 PM
Someone messaged me the other day asking for a link to the SRD for "that Wheel game you always talk about". He then went on to say he wanted to refluff it to be USA Burn Notice with spies and subterfuge set in a modern day super city.
I've been mulling this one, thinking about the LPs that would go into it. The show itself is more old school A-Team than native Burning Wheel but it's probably close enough to do a reasonable take .... however that's getting off-topic for the thread. So, I'm not sure what your post is saying. What do you think about there not being an SRD?
Totally Guy
06-11-2010, 01:14 PM
I've never really taken a gaming system SRD for granted before. I thought it was the exception. Not the rule.
Daniel H.
06-11-2010, 01:18 PM
He then went on to say he wanted to refluff it to be USA Burn Notice with spies and subterfuge set in a modern day super city.
There's no reference document for it, either, Guy, but you should direct your friend toward Blowback (http://blowback.twoscooterspress.com/).
No PDFs of BWR. You can go steal my other games and squirrel them away on your hard drive.
I'd love to do an e-reader version, but unfortunately, the format is hackable. So it ain't happening.
Aramis
06-11-2010, 09:27 PM
I've never really taken a gaming system SRD for granted before. I thought it was the exception. Not the rule.
About 1/3 of games released in the last 10 years have had some form of open license. Some have open supplement licenses (including D&D 4E); many have Wizards OGL; a few are Creative Commons or GNU FDL. An additional few include fan-site licenses but not any publication licenses, and several companies have free licenses for websites and free fanzines.
It seems to be pretty common; almost every non-BW game I've purchased a corebook for in the last 2 years has had some form of open license. The exception was a PDF of Car Wars Compendium.
No PDFs of BWR. You can go steal my other games and squirrel them away on your hard drive.
I'd love to do an e-reader version, but unfortunately, the format is hackable. So it ain't happening.
Every electronic format is hackable. EVERY ONE. If it's in any way useable by Joe Normal, it's hackable. Heck, I had to hack the copy of BE I purchased in order to make it readable on my sony 505. I also hacked my legal copy of MG pdf for the same reason. In the case of BE, making it a single page per PDF page instead of double, thus allowing it to show at about 75% of physical. MG, I pulled the background images, and trimmed the width down...
Oh, and the Sony PRS600 does zoom... and thus the hacking is less important for it.
The original Kindle had no native PDF support... and the ebook boards are filled with complaints about the kindle-II PDF support being lacking.
Berandor
06-12-2010, 02:39 AM
Aramis, how did you do that? Take the images out and make MG narrower? I'd like to do that to my PDF, too.
Aramis
06-13-2010, 04:44 AM
Aramis, how did you do that? Take the images out and make MG narrower? I'd like to do that to my PDF, too.
Borrowed a computer with Acrobat 9 (not reader), opened the PDF, deleted the background images by manualy clicking them, then hitting delete. Select all pages, select crop from the menu, and take off 1" from each side (R&L). Made a couple small adjustments, uncropping a few image-only pages, and then saved. Then went back and bookmarked it, saved again. Took about 2 hours for the de-image, and another 2 for bookmarking. Luke actually laid it out with text only 6" wide...
Berandor
06-13-2010, 05:34 AM
Cool, thanks!
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