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Fourth Horseman
02-08-2005, 04:22 PM
. . . completely unrelated to BW. Most of you have already read this, but this illiterate schmuck just found this after growing a little curious about Kubrick's title. Enjoy . . .

Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard


1 The curfew tolls the knell of parting day,
2 The lowing herd wind slowly o'er the lea,
3 The plowman homeward plods his weary way,
4 And leaves the world to darkness and to me.


5 Now fades the glimm'ring landscape on the sight,
6 And all the air a solemn stillness holds,
7 Save where the beetle wheels his droning flight,
8 And drowsy tinklings lull the distant folds;


9 Save that from yonder ivy-mantled tow'r
10 The moping owl does to the moon complain
11 Of such, as wand'ring near her secret bow'r,
12 Molest her ancient solitary reign.


13 Beneath those rugged elms, that yew-tree's shade,
14 Where heaves the turf in many a mould'ring heap,
15 Each in his narrow cell for ever laid,
16 The rude forefathers of the hamlet sleep.


17 The breezy call of incense-breathing Morn,
18 The swallow twitt'ring from the straw-built shed,
19 The cock's shrill clarion, or the echoing horn,
20 No more shall rouse them from their lowly bed.


21 For them no more the blazing hearth shall burn,
22 Or busy housewife ply her evening care:
23 No children run to lisp their sire's return,
24 Or climb his knees the envied kiss to share.


25 Oft did the harvest to their sickle yield,
26 Their furrow oft the stubborn glebe has broke;
27 How jocund did they drive their team afield!
28 How bow'd the woods beneath their sturdy stroke!


29 Let not Ambition mock their useful toil,
30 Their homely joys, and destiny obscure;
31 Nor Grandeur hear with a disdainful smile
32 The short and simple annals of the poor.


33 The boast of heraldry, the pomp of pow'r,
34 And all that beauty, all that wealth e'er gave,
35 Awaits alike th' inevitable hour.
36 The paths of glory lead but to the grave.


37 Nor you, ye proud, impute to these the fault,
38 If Mem'ry o'er their tomb no trophies raise,
39 Where thro' the long-drawn aisle and fretted vault
40 The pealing anthem swells the note of praise.


41 Can storied urn or animated bust
42 Back to its mansion call the fleeting breath?
43 Can Honour's voice provoke the silent dust,
44 Or Flatt'ry soothe the dull cold ear of Death?


45 Perhaps in this neglected spot is laid
46 Some heart once pregnant with celestial fire;
47 Hands, that the rod of empire might have sway'd,
48 Or wak'd to ecstasy the living lyre.


49 But Knowledge to their eyes her ample page
50 Rich with the spoils of time did ne'er unroll;
51 Chill Penury repress'd their noble rage,
52 And froze the genial current of the soul.


53 Full many a gem of purest ray serene,
54 The dark unfathom'd caves of ocean bear:
55 Full many a flow'r is born to blush unseen,
56 And waste its sweetness on the desert air.


57 Some village-Hampden, that with dauntless breast
58 The little tyrant of his fields withstood;
59 Some mute inglorious Milton here may rest,
60 Some Cromwell guiltless of his country's blood.


61 Th' applause of list'ning senates to command,
62 The threats of pain and ruin to despise,
63 To scatter plenty o'er a smiling land,
64 And read their hist'ry in a nation's eyes,


65 Their lot forbade: nor circumscrib'd alone
66 Their growing virtues, but their crimes confin'd;
67 Forbade to wade through slaughter to a throne,
68 And shut the gates of mercy on mankind,


69 The struggling pangs of conscious truth to hide,
70 To quench the blushes of ingenuous shame,
71 Or heap the shrine of Luxury and Pride
72 With incense kindled at the Muse's flame.


73 Far from the madding crowd's ignoble strife,
74 Their sober wishes never learn'd to stray;
75 Along the cool sequester'd vale of life
76 They kept the noiseless tenor of their way.


77 Yet ev'n these bones from insult to protect,
78 Some frail memorial still erected nigh,
79 With uncouth rhymes and shapeless sculpture deck'd,
80 Implores the passing tribute of a sigh.


81 Their name, their years, spelt by th' unletter'd muse,
82 The place of fame and elegy supply:
83 And many a holy text around she strews,
84 That teach the rustic moralist to die.


85 For who to dumb Forgetfulness a prey,
86 This pleasing anxious being e'er resign'd,
87 Left the warm precincts of the cheerful day,
88 Nor cast one longing, ling'ring look behind?


89 On some fond breast the parting soul relies,
90 Some pious drops the closing eye requires;
91 Ev'n from the tomb the voice of Nature cries,
92 Ev'n in our ashes live their wonted fires.


93 For thee, who mindful of th' unhonour'd Dead
94 Dost in these lines their artless tale relate;
95 If chance, by lonely contemplation led,
96 Some kindred spirit shall inquire thy fate,


97 Haply some hoary-headed swain may say,
98 "Oft have we seen him at the peep of dawn
99 Brushing with hasty steps the dews away
100 To meet the sun upon the upland lawn.


101 "There at the foot of yonder nodding beech
102 That wreathes its old fantastic roots so high,
103 His listless length at noontide would he stretch,
104 And pore upon the brook that babbles by.


105 "Hard by yon wood, now smiling as in scorn,
106 Mutt'ring his wayward fancies he would rove,
107 Now drooping, woeful wan, like one forlorn,
108 Or craz'd with care, or cross'd in hopeless love.


109 "One morn I miss'd him on the custom'd hill,
110 Along the heath and near his fav'rite tree;
111 Another came; nor yet beside the rill,
112 Nor up the lawn, nor at the wood was he;


113 "The next with dirges due in sad array
114 Slow thro' the church-way path we saw him borne.
115 Approach and read (for thou canst read) the lay,
116 Grav'd on the stone beneath yon aged thorn."

THE EPITAPH

117 Here rests his head upon the lap of Earth
118 A youth to Fortune and to Fame unknown.
119 Fair Science frown'd not on his humble birth,
120 And Melancholy mark'd him for her own.


121 Large was his bounty, and his soul sincere,
122 Heav'n did a recompense as largely send:
123 He gave to Mis'ry all he had, a tear,
124 He gain'd from Heav'n ('twas all he wish'd) a friend.


125 No farther seek his merits to disclose,
126 Or draw his frailties from their dread abode,
127 (There they alike in trembling hope repose)
128 The bosom of his Father and his God.

luke
02-08-2005, 11:24 PM
excellent!

I've actually never read it, either. But I'm sure Kubrick was quoting.


36 The paths of glory lead but to the grave.

It makes way too much sense when put in context with the ending.

-L

Fourth Horseman
02-09-2005, 02:38 AM
Kubrick was definitely referencing this poem--since he quotes, what is also known as Gray's Elegy, directly in the opening (closing?) credits to Paths of Glory.

Can you believe this was written in 1752?!? I don't know, the sensibilities are rather modern, Gray succintlctly lays before us the cost of utopia, or empire if you will.

This poem literally took my breath away when I read it. Believe it or not I used to spend a lot of sleepless nights during my sojourn in Washington pacing between the foot of Lincoln and the Vietnam memorial pondering just what the fuck I was doing for King and Country. Odd that a dead white man living 250 years before me was able to capture most of what was racing through my mind. Thomas Gray, of course, reaches much farther with his rythm then my own self-vanity.

But I'm severely off track now, and I will be accused of being a drama queen.

I just wanted to give venue to a different corner of the soul here.

That, ultimately, is what roleplaying is about isn't it?

Lates

R

Yagathai
02-09-2005, 09:33 AM
You're severely off-track! Stop being such a drama queen.

luke
02-09-2005, 09:41 AM
This poem literally took my breath away when I read it. Believe it or not I used to spend a lot of sleepless nights during my sojourn in Washington pacing between the foot of Lincoln and the Vietnam memorial pondering just what the fuck I was doing for King and Country. Odd that a dead white man living 250 years before me was able to capture most of what was racing through my mind. Thomas Gray, of course, reaches much farther with his rythm then my own self-vanity.

Ok, I'm not going to let you off easy on this one. So, what conclusion did you come to? What did Lincoln tell you? What did the 58,400 odd american war dead of the vietnam war mean to you?

I understand the poem, and it's power. But I want to hear it in your words.

-L

jc_madden
02-09-2005, 02:29 PM
In maternal family assembly poised regarding the blue tube;
the numbers crept up higher and the hawks stayed out of view.
Then the generals said "We dont want our boys dead;
your sons and your husbands will be coming back heroes soon."

There's hope in the words and emotion in the eyes,
it's so easy to be misled by the savvy gentle guise;
and like fools we trust the delivery,
but it's all just drunk sincerity.

--Bad Religion, Drunk Sincerity

Fourth Horseman
02-09-2005, 02:48 PM
Abzu,

I think on one level as Kubrick understood this poem, and as I in part understand this poem, it is saying that its on the backs of young men that utopia is built, and that at the end of the day the endproduct is youth cut short, left mouldering, forgotten in a grave.

For Kubrick the answer is simple, and you see this in Paths of Glory and also in Strangelove, "It ain't worth it."

Fair enough if the Utopia you are shedding blood for is the validation of your class addled jingoistic nationalism.

I don't think that was exactly Gray's thesis though. My first reading of this I was just struck by a very simple message, "don't forget the dead."

First off I think that's a raw thought that strikes anyone sitting in front of one of our great monuments on the Mall. Whether you are there in the clear daylight with a family or sitting there at night alone right after they've shut off the lights in the Lincoln memorial, its a very solemn place that invites that feeling. It also evokes for me a response that I think Kubrick would reject out of hand and that Gray doesn't really contemplate. "Make sure its worth it." You stand in front of Lincoln and you say, "of course it was." You, or rather I, stand in front of 58,000 names etched in obsidian and you say, "what the fuck were we thinking." So I would go there, at night, for a reality check every so often to ponder whether what I was doing with my life was following Lincoln's path or the path along the V shaped wall.

I guess I'm a ham.

That's all, the conclusions I reached I'll keep for myself. This cryptic, inside conversation already probably has your readers baffled or snickering with contempt anyway. If you want to discuss Gray some more we can do it this Sunday before kick off if I'm not working.

For those of you who stopped to read the original poem whaddya think of it anyway?

jc_madden
02-09-2005, 03:15 PM
You're not a ham, but you knew that. I think the fact that a man two centuries plus gone can move you is only evident that mankind hasn't really changed much. The same feelings and expressions existed the thousand years ago as much as they did today. War is hell. Death be not proud. As long as we've been around we've been fighting and technology has progressed. But strip away the gagets and man is the same throughout time. It's no surprise that someone's felt the way you feel and had the knack to put it into words. The poem is full of sentiment and beautifully written. Yes, it begs the question: is the cost worth it? When Colin Powell was asked the same question regarding the Iraqi conflict (I'll not debate somantics here) he answered "Yes." But then doesn't it HAVE to be? Could we sleep at night if we answered "No"?

Mankind marches ever onward and we progress towards Utopia (maybe) and in the end if the species survives and prospers it's worth it. But it's hard telling that to the mothers, wifes, and children of the fallen. In the end it's a measure of scope. When the loss is immediate it hurts and it's pointless and the people who make the decisions regarding the lives of our nation's sons and daughters are callous. But do they sleep well at night? Probably not, they're human. But it takes greater men than me to make those decisions and live with the. In the end we have only HOPE. We hope we do the right thing. We hope it's all for the best. We'll never know because our burden is to never see the end of it. Then all we're left with is faith.... if you have it.

luke
02-09-2005, 05:03 PM
"Make sure its worth it."

I think you're not giving Kubrick enough credit. I think your own insight is exactly what his work demands: Make sure it's worth it. From the Killing to Clockwork Orange, his films illimuninate a society gone mad -- a drastic potential for error. They never claim to be right, they merely say, "Perhaps you might want to look more closely before you leap."

I never knew you stalked the Vietnam Memorial. Dan would be proud. I've never been myself -- just the thought of standing in front of those names fills me with such complex emotion... i still don't think I'm ready.

-L

Thor
02-10-2005, 09:49 AM