Thanks, it helped a lot (if we consider that Thor is right of course).
Originally Posted by noclue
Let me try to recapitulate, with A and B teams fighting the snake :
1) We reveal the action of each team
2) The snake chooses its target
3) We cross the choices on the Interaction Table :
* if A and B obtained identical interactions (VS and VS or Ind and Ind or Feint and Feint), they must help each other and choose which one of them will roll . If it is a versus test and if the snake wins, the beast must damage the team it had chosen for target in phase 2 (even if that team has just helped the other one for the roll)
* if A and B both chose Feint and the snake chose Defend, then the snake cannot roll. A and B help each other for the independent test. Same with Attack+Attack against Feint.
* if A and B both chose Defend and the snake chose Feint, then the snake rolls independently ; A and B don't roll.
Now more complex cases :
* if A receives a versus test and B an independent test.
- If the snake decides to target team A (the versus test), it makes a versus test against it as usual and applies remaining successes on it. B rolls independently, as normal.
- Now if the snake decides to target team B (independent against independent), then B and the snake make their roll as usual. Then team A (the versus test) rolls, but with an Obstacle equal to the snake's roll. A bit complicated, but at least it solves many problems.
* A more complex example : if A feints, B defends and the snake feints (it targets B of course). B cannot roll (Defense is canceled by feint). Then the snake rolls independently against B to diminish its disposition. Then A rolls, with an obstacle equals to the snake's roll ; if A fails, it just cannot diminish the snake's disposition ; the snake isn't allowed a “free action” against it, since it targeted the B team.
The only problem that remains is the “Feint case” :
A attacks, B feints and the snake feints : does A cancel the snake's action, allowing A and B to help each other and roll independently ? Or does A roll independently, then B and the snake make a versus test as if the feint didn't cancel anything ?
EDIT if I trust this thread :
Then A rolls independently (Attack against Feint), and the snake (which targets team B of course) rolls versus team B (feint against feint)
So, a lonely team can almost never lose its action (only if its two adversaries choose the same action, Feint+Feint against Defend or Attack+Attack against Feint).